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Chinese troops to seize Zhongye Island back from the Philippines in 2014


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The following report is a translation from Chinese media. The views do not necessarily reflect those of China Daily Mail.

Relying on US support, the Philippines is so arrogant as to announce in the New Year that it will increase its navy and air force deployment at Zhongye Island, a Chinese island that it has illegally occupied for years.

It will be an intolerable insult to China

According to experts, the Chinese navy has drawn a detailed combat plan to seize the island and the battle will be restricted within the South China Sea.

The battle is aimed at recovery of the island stolen by the Philippines from China.

There will be no invasion into Filipino territories.

A report in the Philippines Star confirmed the Philippines military buildup on the island.

Read also – China and Philippines: The reasons why a battle for Zhongye (Pag-asa) Island seems unavoidable

Editor’s Note: This story was broken first by China Daily Mail, and used as a main source by The Philippine Star (China plans to seize Pag-Asa Island this year) to alert the people of  The Philippines about China’s intention to invade. It caused a major diplomatic situation between Philippines and China, with China initially denying the report, but later admitting it to be true.

The next day, as a result of this revelation, USA strengthened it’s position on defending Philippines, mentioning specifically Pag-asa (Zhongye) Island. Manila then agreed to host American troops at it’s naval bases.

Source: qianzhan.com “Sudden major move of Chinese troops this year to recover Zhongye Island by force” (summary by Chan Kai Yee based on the report in Chinese)
 
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Author of the book "Tiananmen's Tremendous Achievements" about how with the help of Tiananmen Protests, talented scholars with moral integrity seized power in the Party and state and brought prosperity to China. The second edition of the book will be published within a few days to mark the 25th anniversary of Tiananmen Protests All the parts in the first edition remain in the second edition with a few changes due to information available later and better understanding. There are also some changes for improvements of style. The new parts are Chapters 12-19 on events in China after the first edition was published: The fierce power struggle for succession between reformists and conservatives; Xi Jinping winning all elders’ support during his mysterious disappearance for 2 weeks in early September, 2012; and Xi Jinping Cyclone. Chan Kai Yee's new book: SPACE ERA STRATEGY: The Way China Beats The US An eye-opening book that tells the truth how the US is losing to China. The US is losing as it adopts the outdated strategy of Air-Sea Battle while China adopts the space era strategy to pursue integrated space and air capabilities: It is losing due to its diplomacy that has given rise to Russian-Chinese alliance. US outdated strategy has enabled China to catch up and surpass the US in key weapons: Hypersonic weapons (HGV) that Pentagon regards as the weapon that will dominate the world in the future. Aerospaceplane in China’s development of space-air bomber that can engage enemy anywhere in the world within an hour and destroy an entire aircraft carrier battle group within minutes. Anti-satellite (ASAT) weapons, anti-ASAT weapons, stealth aircrafts, drones, AEW&C, etc. The book gives detailed descriptions of China’s weapon development based on information mainly from Chinese sources that the author monitors closely. U.S. Must Not Be Beaten by China! China is not a democracy. Its political system cannot prevent the emergence of a despotic leader or stop such a leader when he begins to bring disasters to people. A few decades ago, Mao Zedong, the worst tyrant in world history did emerge and bring disasters to Chinese people. He wanted to fight a nuclear war to replace capitalism with communism but could not bring nuclear holocaust to world people as China was too weak and poor at that time. If a despot like Mao Zedong emerges when China has surpassed the US in military strength, world people will suffer the misery experienced by Chinese people in Mao era. China surpassing the US in GDP is not something to worry about as China has the heavy burden to satisfy its huge population, but China surpassing the US in military strength will be world people’s greatest concern if China remains an autocracy. US people are of much better quality than Chinese people. What they lack is a wise leader to adopt the correct strategy and diplomacy and the creative ways to use its resources in developing its military capabilities. I hope that with the emergence of a great leader, the US can put an end to its decline and remain number one in the world. China, US, space era strategy, air-sea battle, space-air bomber, arms race, weapon development, chan kai yee

Discussion

157 thoughts on “Chinese troops to seize Zhongye Island back from the Philippines in 2014

  1. Could someone remove Communist Party from Beijing, please?

    Posted by Jussi | January 12, 2014, 4:56 am
    • Impossible.

      “However, for many people, democracy is simply synonymous to multi-party democracy that may deprive the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) of its monopoly of power. Due to its monopoly of power, CCP is a huge group of vested interest that includes not only 85 million CCP members but also those who are not CCP members but rely on the CCP for their employment, income, benefits and even assets, including lots of non-CCP public servants, soldiers, employees of state-owned enterprises, etc. The number of those people including their family members and close relatives exceeds one fourth of Chinese population according to my conservative estimate.” — Chapter 19 of “Tiananmen’s Tremendous Achievements” expanded second edition by Chan Kai Yee

      As described in the book, talented intellectuals have transformed CCP from a party dominated by uneducated workers and peasants into that dominated by intellectuals. There has to be further transformation to turn it into a democratic party so that China will be transformed into a democracy. That is what Chinese people have to make efforts to achieve. As for removal of the party, I do not see the possibility.

      Posted by chankaiyee2 | January 12, 2014, 9:05 am
      • A party dominated by intellectuals? I laughed aloud when I read this.

        Posted by Whatyousaidwasdumb | January 13, 2014, 5:06 pm
    • Remove the communist party? why? because now they are the 2nd largest economy in the world & The biggest loan collector of United States? Why would you arrogantly assume that people want capitalism over there. Don’t try to decide what is right and push it on Chinese people. Communism is just like Capitalism. both have their good & bad. I don’t consider China to be a communist country anymore. They are kind of a mix between Capitalism & Communism. Which Soviet union also tried to do but the process was too rushed and they failed.

      Posted by Asif Bin Liaquat | January 13, 2014, 4:45 am
      • China operates a corporate capitalist system. There is nothing communist about China. The US is more communist than the CCP. The Chinese hate their government and consider it a joke but at the same time they fear it and so they go along with it passively.

        Posted by Whatyousaidwasdumb | January 13, 2014, 4:53 pm
      • The Chinese want their cake and eat it to, the only reason they are loaning money to the USA is because of all the junk they sell the USA because of the greedy US firms who moved their business over to china to get cheap and uneducated labor. so now that they have made lots of $$$ from the USA they think they know how to be communist and capitalist at the same time? this will eventually get them in trouble and their economy will falter because more and more Americans are not purchasing junk made in china we are buying things made in other countries other than china like chino? The Chinese want to be everything all at once, go to the moon, build a big Navy, build a copy of Las Vegas, come on you will never be like the USA no matter how much money you have.

        Posted by P. Martinez | January 15, 2014, 2:19 am
      • Reply to Whatyousaidwasdumb

        You laughed because of your ignorance. See the following please:

        The Three Represents Signifies Scholars’ Conclusive Victory
        The first Represent: The Party represents the requirements of the development of China’s advanced productive force. Advanced productive force is first of all innovation in science and technology. China’s scholars are the driving talents behind such science and technology essential to the advanced productive force; therefore, in order to represent the requirements of the development of the advanced productive force, the Party has to be dominated by scholars.

        The second Represent: The Party represents the orientation of China’s advanced culture. This includes a return of the glory of thousands of years of Chinese civilization. It means the restoration of the values and virtues of Chinese civilization including Confucius’ teachings, and the integration of them with advanced Western culture. It reflects the view of the new generation of scholars that emphasizes cultivating oneself in accordance with the teachings of Chinese sages.

        In the first Represent, it seems that only the scholars engaged in natural science and technology dominate the Party. The second Represent supplements the first Represent and makes clear that all scholars including those engaged in social sciences, literature, art, etc. dominate the Party. Among the members of the 17th Party Central Committee, 99.5% had received college education. It was a long-deserved turnaround for China’s elite. Scholars who suffered wanton grievous persecution during Mao’s Cultural Revolution have finally become the vanguards of China’s new society. With these two Represents written into the Party Constitution, scholars’ dominance of the Party is conclusive.
        Mao spent all his political capital to persecute scholars and maintain the rule of uneducated workers and peasants, but in the end barbarism was defeated by civilization and violence defeated by wisdom. The first represent signifies the thorough bankrupcy of Maoism in politics.

        Mao’s attempt to destroy Chinese culture gave rise to the renaissance of Chinese Culture and especially the resurrection of Confucianism that Mao tried hard to negate. Mao’s Cultural Revolution has proved that Chinese scholars armed with Chinese classic wisdom are invincible. The second represent signifies the thorough bankrupcy of Maoism in culture.

        Quotes from my book “Tiananmen’s Tremendous Achievements”

        Due to your lack of understanding of the diametrical changes in China, you cannot understand why China has been able to achieve marvelous economic growth in three decades and why if Xi Jinping succeeds in his ambitious reform, the United States will lag far behind China if it fails to catch up.

        Posted by chankaiyee2 | January 15, 2014, 10:56 am
    • If we only still have president marcos this will not happen to us filipinos .. sad

      Posted by Jorg | January 14, 2014, 2:17 am
      • why keep wearing old trousers… let the dead man go after all he didn’t do no shit to improve the lives of his people instead he plundered the country….., it was all written in history. The fact is one of our former president sold us to china that’s the reason why scarborough shoals issue was born.

        Posted by Trebor | January 14, 2014, 11:45 am
      • That might work! Find Mrs. Marcos and she might trade all those shoes to the Chinese for the Island.

        Posted by Tom | January 14, 2014, 11:34 pm
    • chinese always invade small country around.Do not think we are a big country we can do whatever we want.

      Posted by jymmy le | January 14, 2014, 1:20 pm
  2. unless China is willing to follow international law (UNCLOS for example), they are doing such a provocative move that will be met by a justifiable action by the international community… there is a consequence of being a rogue nation

    Posted by mao | January 12, 2014, 6:59 pm
    • Don’t kid yourself. Do you think that the Australians, Germans, and Japan are going to band together to repel this? They won’t. Furthermore, more and more people in America are waking up to exactly what our present status is as a paper tiger. We didn’t get into a war with Syria, and we’re not going to get into a war with the Chinese either. An Army doesn’t attack the people who make their combat boots. Kruschev’s prophecy, that the communists would sell us the rope to hang ourselves, has come true. If you’re in the Phillipines I would strongly recommend not provoking your next door neighbor. The cavalry you are expecting ain’t coming.

      Posted by watchingtheweasels | January 15, 2014, 1:52 am
      • Your reason is absurd. Who did go to war in syria? America did? Japan did? All they did is to give support to the rebels. Filipino peacekeepers were there when no other country wants be left out on that warzone. And if you believe that the 1951 mutual defense treaty is just a piece of paper rather than a treaty, then it might as well be torn to pieces.
        “I would strongly recommend not provoking your next door neighbor” – provocations always come from the perpetual law breakers and its China. What the philippines has done to provoke China? Arrest their poachers in our waters w/c is within EEZ?please read UNCLOS.

        Posted by joe fret | January 15, 2014, 10:39 am
      • We and the rest of the world extended our hands when they needed us during Haiyan. Where is China? Although they don”t need our help, we will come for them. And fact is, their not provoking China, they are protecting what is rightfully theirs, same as what Japan is doing. If I was China, I would be extremely careful.

        Posted by Ralph Gordon | January 15, 2014, 11:29 am
      • This generation’s Asian version of Hitler’s Nazi is trying to copy what the Nazi Germany did prior and within World War II era: Seized neighboring, weakly-defended territories to satisfy the Fuhrer’s vision of building the Empire of Greed known as the Third Reich. The Germans during that time were brain-washed, or forced to believe about the notion that any race other than the German (Aryan) race is inferior. Modern day Chinese leaders were responsible for feeding up their own people with wrong information that could trigger a nationalistic cause to defend, or forced their own citizens to execute what they believed was China’s growing might. The bottom line could be horrible for ambitious China. Nations could strike and inflict heavy defeat on China leveling her to the knees. Her Golden Age has long been gone and, as a rule, no nation or empire in this world’s written history has ever managed to revive the Golden Age status after it has come and gone.

        Posted by The Neutralizer | January 15, 2014, 8:39 pm
      • Napoleon Nalcot This generation’s Asian version of Hitler’s Nazi is trying to copy what the Nazi Germany did prior and within World War II era: Seized neighboring, weakly-defended territories to satisfy the Fuhrer’s vision of building the Empire of Greed known as the Third Reich. The Germans during that time were brain-washed, or forced to believe about the notion that any race other than the German (Aryan) race is inferior. Modern day Chinese leaders were responsible for feeding up their own people with wrong information that could trigger a nationalistic cause to defend, or forced their own citizens to execute what they believed was China’s growing might. The bottom line could be horrible for ambitious China. Nations could strike and inflict heavy defeat on China leveling her to the knees. Her Golden Age has long been gone and, as a rule, no nation or empire in this world’s written history has ever managed to revive the Golden Age status after it has come and gone.

        Posted by Napoleon Nalcot | January 15, 2014, 8:43 pm
    • Your talk is full of ignorance and you talked that the Philippines are the one who provoked..Its your communist. China that always bullied her neighbors who are living in peace.Greediness of. China that makes her so desperate to invade others territories because of natural resources deep in the sea..we can not defeat but we can never surrender to a Communist country. Filipinos will die fighting for their lands and sea.

      Posted by Bien | March 23, 2014, 11:00 am
  3. china is also arrogant. Why not face japan or u.s? Face the country that is the same with ur level.

    Posted by tinkai | January 12, 2014, 7:06 pm
    • China provoked Japan by its establishment of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone. It proves its intention to fight a war with Japan if Japan fires the first shot. However, Japan is not so stupid as to fight the first shot but provocked in return by Shinzo Abe’s visit of the Yasukuni Shrine. Please refer to my post “China Does Not Budge in its Brink of War Policy on Air Defense Identification Zone” dated December 5, 2013 at tiananmenstremendousachievements.wordpress.com.

      China has also provoked the US. Please refer to my post “Chinese naval vessel tries to force U.S. warship to stop in international waters” here.

      The situation is more serious than you imagine.

      Posted by chankaiyee2 | January 12, 2014, 9:05 pm
      • China has more of a leg to stand on than the U.S. does. The U.S. creates boogy men called terrorist and takes all the oil and natural resourses. Oh. let’s not forget the the poppy fields our marines guard in Afganastan.

        Posted by China Vs U.S. | January 14, 2014, 6:27 am
  4. they learned from last year… they will wait for opportunity during typhoon season, when phil govt will be too preoccupied with disasters. they already have those heavy hovercraft than can haul troops and heavy armour and already carrying out many drills for quick deployment.

    Posted by insek_kupal | January 12, 2014, 8:04 pm
  5. they say Japan is imperialistic but they are doing the same thing Japan in history, and so its no longer be a Asian CO-prosperity sphere, but a total Imperialism and FEAR not just in our country, but in everyone in asia

    Posted by norman | January 12, 2014, 8:08 pm
  6. Americas leadership is in stake here. We the asian american people are angry with the chinese actions, they,re economic domination is going over their heads. They lack of energy resources are pushing them to the brinck of comfrontation with the western world. They might just be asking dor it because the western world will not let it happened, are they willing to use their nuke ro be the dominant force…..thats is the danger of it all because the western world will not let it happened. Will the western world sacrifice south east asian countries for peace, that is the question, japan will not let it happened , harakiri dirst before submission. Watch for japan to rise and will take south east asian with him. I can guarantee it..China you will draw the line and we will see how fast you can draw your guns and how much guts your people has for nuclear doom..

    Posted by Bugsy | January 12, 2014, 9:43 pm
    • ICBM ( Intercontinental Ballistic Missile ) is is no longer consider a threat to united states if the war erupted. The U.S. has capability to jammed their satellite rendering all military arsenals blind and useless in fact its already next to chinese satellite following wherever it go waiting for green light in any given moment by the U.S.A.F. In a digital world of war you need to be ahead of one step against the enemy in order to gain advantage. Chinese is now worried about japan almost 4 trillion dollar military spending its way different from chinese 3 trillion dollar in debts. chinese military mights ( both navy, airforce ) rely heavily on france, germany and russia for military parts yet france and germany belong to NATO ( North Atlantic Treaty Organization t’was form to counter the spread of communism ). United States has the largest oil reserved for military use and china don’t have a drip to support military energy to a much longer war, so its up to china to weigh it in first before this bullying behavior will be out of control not realizing its grave consequences.

      Posted by Trebor | January 14, 2014, 12:17 pm
      • China’s military recently launched three small satellites into orbit as part of Beijing’s covert anti-satellite warfare program, according to a U.S. official.

        The three satellites, launched July 20 by a Long March-4C launcher, were later detected conducting unusual maneuvers in space indicating the Chinese are preparing to conduct space warfare against satellites, said the official who is familiar with intelligence reports about the satellites.

        One of the satellites was equipped with an extension arm capable of attacking orbiting satellites that currently are vulnerable to both kinetic and electronic disruption.

        “This is a real concern for U.S. national defense,” the official said. “The three are working in tandem and the one with the arm poses the most concern. This is part of a Chinese ‘Star Wars’ program.”

        The above are the first 4 paragraphs in The Butcher’s post “China launches three ASAT satellites: Small maneuvering orbiters include one with a robotic arm” on August 28, 2013 at chinadailymail.com.

        The Washington Free Beacon says in its report on January 13 that according to an anonymous Pentagon official, China conducted test of its hypersonic plane on January 9. Pantagon gave the plane the codename of WU-14 and regarded it as a hypersonic weapon.

        As such hypersonic plane can penetrate anti-ballistic missile system, China’s test of its hypersonic plane was a great step forward in its development of new-type strategic nuclear weapon and conventional missiles.

        It is said that the hypersonic plane is installed in the revised carrier rocket of an ICBM. It is launched from the ground, separates from its booster and then flies at high speed without driving force. Its speed may reach Mach 10.

        The US tested its HTV-2 hypersonic plane in 2010 and 2011 but failed. Russia carried out such tests too in the period from 2005 to 2009, but no information about the tests is available.

        US military spokesman Jeffrey Pool said that the US had noticed the Chinese test but gave no comment in order to avoid misjudgment.

        The above is the major part of my post “China Tests Mach 10 Hypersonic Weapon: US media” today at tiananmenstremendousachievements.wordpress.com.

        Posted by chankaiyee2 | January 14, 2014, 5:54 pm
    • Likely, it’s just one more way of showing contempt for the democratic party ruling elite that withdrew the United States from super power status, destroyed the credibility of American currency and abandoned its allies..

      Posted by everett walker | January 14, 2014, 9:25 pm
    • We will be waiting for the PLA Navy with our fast attack, cruise missile-equipped nuclear submarines, our Arleigh Burke class Aegis destroyers, our space-based weaponry and a couple of our Nimitz-class aircraft carriers in support of the other Asian countries. They are our allies and we are treaty-bound to protect their interests in that area. We don’t care about all that debt that China holds because we will just declare those Treasury Bills null and void, reducing them to so much paper (the Federal Reserve is ready to do that). We will give you the spanking you deserve and send you home to political turmoil, revolution and mass starvation. Bring it on, China! It’s clobberin’ time!

      Posted by Tom Beecher | January 15, 2014, 12:07 am
      • Right tom. Sink their lone aircraft carrier and they’re finished.

        Posted by joe fret | January 15, 2014, 10:46 am
      • World history, especially the history of the two world wars, proves that hatred never prevails. There is no judtification to kill all Chinese people or American people.

        Mao taught people hatred and launched the Cultural Revolution to persecute intellectuals and lots of innocent people, but his way has been negated and we now uphold harmony.

        I do not advocate war, not even a war to recover China’s lost territories, but I translate or make summary of what has taken place in China to provide information about China.

        The surging nationalism is now a fact in China, but Chinese people do not hate other countries or their peoples except Japan and its militarists.

        I assume that you are an America but a rare species now. America did have serious racism and a long history of discrimination against Chinese people. It has helped China a lot by such discrimination as most of China’s top scientists and engineers have received American education and training and returned China due to the discrimination.

        They have developed China’s nuclear boms, rockets, missiles, satellites, fighter jets, airborne early warning & control aircrafts, etc.

        Now, an even larger number of Chinese students are receiving education and training in the United States. Life in America is indeed much better than in China. Quite a few of them may choose to stay in the Unitred States and work in high technology sector. One of my friends, now retired, worked for many years in Lockheed-Martin in developing top fighter jets. If all Americans are like you, all ethnic Chinese scientists and engineers will be driven back to China.

        Then China will be very grateful.

        Posted by chankaiyee2 | January 15, 2014, 11:22 am
  7. you got our mischief reef, we got you Zhongye Island. :)

    Posted by evergreen menthol | January 12, 2014, 10:05 pm
  8. “I’d like to see them try.” China and Nokor are the same more talk than action…

    Posted by Reynaldo Go | January 12, 2014, 10:21 pm
  9. If they want war,

    We will give them a WAR!..

    Our Country also fight with low numbers involved..

    Strategy and right positioning and of course..

    LUCK!

    Posted by N'k Mark | January 12, 2014, 11:10 pm
    • In a battlefield Filipinos are always outnumbered ,but they have the ability and courage to reverse the result.citing for example when filipino soldiers fought against the chinese soldiers in the war of south korea ,the ph govt .sent 1400 soldiers against 40000 soldiers of china…what are the number of casualties in the Ph sodiers? 24 died. How many chinese soldiers killed by the filipinos 7000 ! Thats why one american said, GIVE ME 10,000 FILIPINO SOLDIERS AND I WILL CONQUER THE WHOLE WORLD.

      Posted by Bien | January 26, 2014, 11:41 pm
  10. when the time has come, we filipino’s will be united.. and those facker china troops will go back home. when the time is right every filipino will fight!

    Posted by UNITEDASONE | January 13, 2014, 1:00 am
    • Watch your words.
      China is still monitoring our reaction to that. They know we cant do anything and the best thing to do is spread this information to other filipino’s .

      Posted by owen | January 15, 2014, 9:40 pm
  11. Like Hillary Clinton said, “I like to see them try”.

    Posted by Santi Kampilan | January 13, 2014, 1:49 am
  12. I am very excited to fight this Reds!

    Posted by bry | January 13, 2014, 9:46 am
  13. Just give it a try, You’ll see! ;)

    Posted by Filipino-Blood | January 13, 2014, 10:09 am
  14. China is talking peace while doing chaotic and incomparable dilemma to its neighbors. A diplomacy of arrogance

    Posted by Ka Pal Muxin Tsek | January 13, 2014, 12:41 pm
  15. Proceed with caution. All sides must be mindful that a small mis-step in matters like these could inexorably trigger the fourth world war. Innocent civilian populations count on prudence and restraint from their leaders, as they will pay the price of war. One would hope that peaceful peoples could refrain from militaristic rhetoric and behavior, in order to sit together and solve issues of mutual concern.

    Posted by Charlie McHenry (@DonCarlitos) | January 13, 2014, 1:30 pm
  16. China has always been a bully, remember with Tibet? And now since they have depleted their resources they think they can just claim any territory they want with their make believe maps. Cmon! the territory you are trying to claim as yours is far away from your coastline.. its so stupid to claim something as yours when you can actually see the seashore of another country from afar.

    Posted by chengboiser | January 13, 2014, 4:29 pm
  17. if you think that the Philippine government is more corrupt than china? think again? they are spreading lies to thier people that zhongye/pag-asa island is theirs??? hello ? what kind of government is that who lies to thier own people……u think china is great? hahaha? pang pepeke lang alam nila yan..peke tools pekeng shades…pati island pekeng claim hahaha..patay gutom mga tao dyan d katulad sa pina….party all the time!

    Posted by taosi | January 13, 2014, 4:58 pm
    • China is surrounded by Asian nations and does not have an open sea for an advantage to their navy, So, China will be grabbing all what China can grab by way of talk or/and force.

      China already knows the result of the arbitration and soon be caught that China’s 9-dashed Line was fabricated, fake and forged.

      Posted by Tumol Mo | January 13, 2014, 8:00 pm
  18. If WWIII erupts and ends, China will be back farming and eating rats in sewers.

    Posted by Edward | January 13, 2014, 7:55 pm
  19. I dont think China would do such thing..

    Posted by francisdanielmaning | January 14, 2014, 12:42 am
  20. How do the Chinese spell ‘Anschluss? ‘

    Posted by Michele | January 14, 2014, 2:39 am
  21. China will not invade, it will just stop doing business with the Philippines, withdraw monetary support. Remember the banana export problem? The exporters were crying about their rotting bananas and lost a lot of money because China put up some made up restrictions. That’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as economic warfare is concerned.The Chinese “attack” will be economic. If you want to lose your job or suffer some sort of hardship go right ahead. You have to be realistic, as the USA is fading away economically it will shed non necessary relationships like the Philippines. Any prudent person knows that relationships come and go but it is best to be on good terms with all including the rising power. If you believe a small island is that important to you then be prepared to face the consequences. The Philippines were ruled by the Spanish, the Japanese and the Americans so you should know that nothing is permanent. Instead of spending large sums of money on military equipment it’s better spent on the welfare of the Philippino people. Why fight when you are sure to lose, limit your losses.

    Posted by Bob Smith | January 14, 2014, 3:34 am
    • Absurd…you are telling us to give up because we have no chances of winning, then china decides to invade palawan, then manila and we will just let china do it and instead focused on the welfare of filipinos. Sorry but that is not acceptable. Every piece of land that PH rightfully and lawfully owns is worth defending. Even if it costs death, so be it a part of PH great history as nation who once again is facing another greedy oppressor. Youre right, nothing is permanent, China was once a weakling and a humble nation turned into a land grabbing monster.

      Posted by joe fret | January 15, 2014, 10:56 am
    • are you sure that only philippines will react on china’s action? i think many countries surrounding china are their enemies…

      Posted by tenkai27 | January 15, 2014, 7:50 pm
      • As the matter of fact, the ASEAN region and even Japan is sharing the same sentiment with the Philippines. That was evidenced by the military support of the Japanese Government when they donated some patrol boats to the Philippine Government last year.

        Posted by Stephen | January 21, 2014, 11:55 pm
  22. Just read the comments–appears that all are obtuse sick folks. How true is the article and what motives is China Daily upto > It quotes sources from other tabloids. Look fools–China has not invaded any country for countless years, Stupi Jap and Fils–got invaded by USA and millions slaughtered. To those Philippinos –listen in around 1982–the Americans invaded your country killed over 300,000— wake up fools–know your own enemy–USA

    Posted by jojo | January 14, 2014, 4:09 am
  23. Oh no you don’t China, you’re forgetting who props up your economy by buying manufactured goods.

    You’re forgetting that you still need to build a new aircraft carrier to have as many as… Italy.

    You’re forgetting that your dick-wagging contest in Asia doesn’t stop the US from being master of the entire damn ocean.

    Posted by styxhexenhammer666 | January 14, 2014, 5:34 am
  24. China has no power- if they ever entered a real symmetrical war they’d quickly find that it doesn’t matter how much infantry you possess if the ships and planes meant to carry them are destroyed within mere hours or days- they have a relatively small elite force, backed by a modern but small naval force and a not-so-modern airforce consisting mainly of soviet surplus that would get knocked out of the sky easily.

    They’d end up limited to attacking by land- a fools’ errand when the Philippines are… a group of islands…

    Posted by styxhexenhammer666 | January 14, 2014, 5:37 am
  25. Put it on pay per view. The future of war, let them kill each other.

    Posted by YdN5SGeBOqFd81l988XG | January 14, 2014, 6:15 am
  26. Let us not be hasty in making judgments until our government validated the issues let us all hope that peace prevails between the Philippines and china. For now we must be vigilant and support the modernization of our armed forces.

    Posted by dolores | January 14, 2014, 1:16 pm
  27. So many reports like this one in chinese media..we never believe it~

    Posted by charles | January 14, 2014, 3:42 pm
  28. Lol. The Philippines…our Pacific Israel. Good luck with that.

    Posted by Allen Piercy | January 14, 2014, 5:24 pm
  29. This is a good test to see if America stands by her “allies” anymore or not.
    I’m sure Japan will have their eyes glued on this situation.
    My bet is, since America is flat broke, with a clown at the helm, China can
    do whatever they please. I think, since the Philipinos wanted us out so badly,
    “they’re on their own.”

    Posted by Rick Smith | January 14, 2014, 9:23 pm
  30. China begins its agreesive move on Pag-asa and rest of Spratlys Islands could cause tragic outcome. I hope countries involved on dispute will collaborate instead of using force.

    Posted by Browse | January 15, 2014, 4:51 pm
  31. This generation’s Asian version of Hitler’s Nazi is trying to copy what the Nazi Germany did prior and within World War II era: Seized neighboring, weakly-defended territories to satisfy the Fuhrer’s vision of building the Empire of Greed known as the Third Reich. The Germans during that time were brain-washed, or forced to believe about the notion that any race other than the German (Aryan) race is inferior. Modern day Chinese leaders were responsible for feeding up their own people with wrong information that could trigger a nationalistic cause to defend, or forced their own citizens to execute what they believed was China’s growing might. The bottom line could be horrible for ambitious China. Nations could strike and inflict heavy defeat on China leveling her to the knees. Her Golden Age has long been gone and, as a rule, no nation or empire in this world’s written history has ever managed to revive the Golden Age status after it has come and gone.

    Posted by Napoleon Nalcot | January 15, 2014, 8:46 pm
    • You post shows your lack of information of the situation. The following post of mine can give you better understanding:

      South China Sea Disputes: Lucky China; Unlucky Philippines
      Posted: June 21, 2013 | Author: chankaiyee2

      I write this post due to Mr. Jose Mario Dolor De Vega’s furious response to my post “China boasts of strategy to ‘recover’ islands occupied by Philippines” at China Daily Mail on May 28.

      First, I should make clear that the strategy mentioned in the post is neither my strategy nor China’s strategy as proved by Chinese government’s recent words and actions. I sincerely hope that Chinese and Filipino peoples maintain their traditional friendship.

      My daughter has a Filipino housekeeping assistant mainly to take care of my granddaughter Piao Piao. The assistant loves Piao Piao so dearly that Piao Piao is very close to her, closer perhaps than to Piao Piao’s mother.

      I am always very grateful to her for taking such good care of my granddaughter and we are good friends. Why shall the dispute over some tiny islands, in fact mostly reefs, turn us into enemies?

      I do not see anything in the report I translated and posted that may stir up enmity between Chinese and Filipino peoples though I made the mistake in regarding Major General Zhang Zhaozhong’s strategy as China’s strategy because he said that in an interview with CCTV, an authoritative Chinese media. Moreover, it was precisely what China did in dealing with the incident at Scarborough Shoal.

      Major General Zhang made me believe that China would drive Filipino troops away from the shipwreck at Ren’ai Shoal (Second Thomas Shoal) by cutting off their supplies of water and food. However, at a routine press conference of China’s Defense Ministry on May 30, to a reporter’s question “a Filipino official said today that the Chinese warships converged at the South China Sea area around the Ren’ai Shoal will cut off Filipino military personnel’s supplies of water and food. Please confirm,” Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng said, “It is necessary to make clear that Philippines side’s allegation has no support of fact at all.”

      Obviously, Zhang’s strategy is not Chinese government’s strategy.

      I posted the news about what Chinese Ministry spokesman said on May 31, but perhaps Mr. De Vego did not see that. Anyway, I owe Mr. De Vega an apology if my post on the “cabbage strategy” made him believe that the strategy is Chinese government’s strategy. I am sorry, Mr. De Vego.

      Mr. De Vego’s post obviously will stir up Chinese people’s enmity against Filipino peoples by saying “his country (meaning China) is a mere dirty scavenger, thieves and pirates of the worst kind”.

      Territorial dispute is a very complicated issue. No wonder even some Chinese officials are ignorant what is the basis of China’s claim. However, there are certainly sound basis for China’s claim including lots of documents and maps from Yuan Dynasty up to now.

      When I studied geography at primary school, Nansha Islands (the Spratly) and the nine-dash line were already in the map we studied. At that time China was the Republic of China before the Communist takeover in 1949.

      Taiwan (the Republic of China (ROC))’s claim to the sovereignty of those islands, reefs and sea areas is identical to China’s. The PRC has just inherited ROC’s claim that in 1949. The speculation about the rich oil and gas resources in those sea areas emerged decades later. Therefore, accusing China as “dirty thieves and pirates” who want to grab the islands, reefs and sea areas because of the resources is entirely groundless and will hurt Chinese people’s feeling.

      The republic of China has claimed sovereignty since 1911, several Chinese dynasties claimed sovereignty before 1911.

      Even if you had better grounds to claim sovereignty than China, you should not use such insulting and abusive language.

      Perhaps, such language is common now in Filipino media aiming at stirring up Filipino people’s enmity against Chinese people. However, I do not think such language is suitable for a well-educated university lecturer before he has made himself well informed about the issue.

      Perhaps you believe Taiwan is a country other than China. In the Shanghai Communique of the US and China dated February 28, 1972, the US said, “The United States acknowledges that all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China. The United States Government does not challenge that position.” That was in 1972.

      What is the situation now? The KMT, the ruling party, in Taiwan and the Chinese Communist Party, the ruling party on the Chinese mainland, both uphold the “consensus of 1992” that there is only one China.

      The one China on both sides of the Taiwan Strait has identical claim to the islands, reefs and sea area, i.e. Chinese people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait have claimed sovereignty of the islands, reefs and sea areas since at least 1911.

      Major General Zhang’s strategy obviously indicated Chinese people’s unwillingness to fight a war for those islands and reefs, but Mr. De Vego is bellicose. He talks a lot about a war between the Philippines and China in his post.

      On January 29 and June 28, 2012, I respectively placed my posts titled “China’s greater Asia co-prosperity sphere” and “China’s dream of a greater Asia co-prosperity sphere” to give my speculation on Chinese leaders’ intention to establish an organization like the EU for prosperity of all the countries in East and Southeast Asia.

      As I was for a time close to the new generation of talented intellectuals with moral integrity that emerged during the Cultural Revolution and has seized state power now, I am familiar with their mindset. What the Chinese top leader has recently done proves that I am right.

      In early June, Xi Jinping sent Lieutenant General Qi Jianguo to launch a charm offensive at the annual Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore to stress that China wanted peace and was willing to leave the disputes over the islands in East and South China Seas to future generations.

      SCMP says in its relevant reports, “On June 19, Chinese President Xi Jinping told his visiting Vietnamese counterpart of Wednesday that maintaining peace and stability in the contested South China Sea was vital for both countries, who should remember their traditional friendship.”

      “On June 20, the presidents of China and Vietnam set up a hotline to defuse territorial disputes and expanded a 2006 agreement to jointly explore for oil in the Gulf of Tonkin,” (refer to my posts titled “China tells Vietnam it wants peace in South China Sea” here and “Beijing, Hanoi set up hotline, sign oil deal during visit by Viet president” in my blog tiananmenstremendousachievements.wordpress.com).

      As for the disputes between China and the Philippines, I would like to say that China is very lucky while the Philippines is unlucky. Why?

      First of all, Chinese people regard as top priority keeping the legacy they have inherit from their ancestors, but such legacy may perhaps be useless or even an expensive burden.

      When I studied Chinese geography about Nansha Islands at primary school, I wondered what was the benefit to have those remote uninhabitable islands. They seemed to me expensive burdens that China had to incur lots of expenses to safeguard its sovereignty over them.

      However, it turns out that the sea areas around those islands may have rich oil and gas resources and are of strategic importance.

      The burdens China inherited have turned out to be treasures.

      What good luck!

      However China seems unlucky that such treasures have attracted quite a few contenders, especially as China was weak and poor for quite a long time in the past and seemed unable to keep the treasures from being taken away by contenders.

      Surprisingly, China has become rich and powerful in a few decades and able to protect those treasures.

      What good luck!

      On the Philippines side, at the beginning of the 20th century, the United States offered the Philippines the choice to become a state of the United States, but was rejected. If the Philippines had become a part of the US, perhaps the US would have developed those islands and reefs long ago and extracted all the oil and gas in the sea areas there. At that time, China had neither navy nor commercial fleet to counter the United States.

      Later, there were US navy and air force bases in the Philippines and the islands, reefs and sea areas were in fact under US control while Mao Zedong neglected development of Chinese navy, but used all Chinese resources for the development of atomic bombs and ICBMs for world hegemony. If the Philippines had seized all the islands, reefs and sea areas in dispute at that time, China would have had great difficulties to recover them.

      Luckily, the Philippines drove away the US and took back the bases to deprive the US of the obligations to spend lots of money for the defense of the Philippines. At that time, we were really very happy about that as we were worried that US presence would make it very difficult for China to maintain its sovereignty to the islands, reefs and sea areas given that it took time for China to develop its navy.

      When the Philippines began to contend with China for the islands, reefs and sea areas, China had grown relatively rich and was developing its navy quite quickly. Still, the Philippines has occupied some shoals and China and the Philippines both patrolled and fished in the rich fishing area around Scarborough Shoal.

      In my opinion, even though China has sovereignty over Scarborough Shoal, the two countries shall maintain the previous status quo. China shall allow Filipino fishermen to fish there as like Chinese fishermen, quite a few Filipino fishermen had been fishing there for generations; therefore, before the standoff there, China did not drive away Filipino fishermen from the sea area though perhaps, China had the intention to do so.

      Luckily for China, Filipino navy tried to drive away Chinese fishermen and provided China with the excuse to drive away Filipino fishermen. China is thus very lucky to gain complete control of Scarborough Shoal peacefully.

      Luckily again, Filipino coast guards fired at Taiwanese fishermen and killed one of them. As China regards Taiwan as a part of China, it has given China further excuse to drive away Filipino fishermen when China thinks fit.

      China was not so lucky with Ren’ai Shoal (Second Thomas Shoal). If the Philippines had sent building materials to stabilize it shipwreck there, China would have had the excuse to drive Filipino troops from the shoal, but the Philippines did not give China such a chance.

      By my post “China boasts of strategy to ‘recover’ islands occupied by Philippines”, I provided Filipino and world people with the information on possible Chinese strategy. I believe, if Mr. De Vego had not been so furious as to lose his mind, he would have made calm analysis and known what the Philippines had better do to avoid making China lucky and the Philippines unlucky.

      Posted by chankaiyee2 | January 16, 2014, 10:57 am
  32. The whole world will laugh if the Communist Paper Dragon cant take that small island from a small but Brave democratic country The Philippines. after 2014? Behold david out smart and humiliate the Hollow Goliath again….this is a Dream of a communist general and if he/they cant take it or wont do it? 2015 will be a humiliating nightmare to him and to his kind….this is what the Philippines is waiting for… a Dog who can Bite not just Bark!…our soldier are there waiting….pls.dont let them wait the Whole Year lol.

    Posted by OxO101 | January 29, 2014, 8:28 pm

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